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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

The egg on the plantation is doing more philosophical work than half the men with microphones at “civilizational renewal” conferences. A parking sign gives you clean instructions. The egg gives you reality: context, intuition, risk, germs, etiquette, wife-sense, duck uncertainty, and the quiet terror of becoming the weird man fondling poultry evidence near a historic pond. This is the useful point: any philosophy that cannot survive ordinary domestic reality is probably not wisdom. It is just a lonely man building a castle out of concepts while his wife quietly wonders why he is like this.

Fr. Brad Doyle's avatar

The ancients knew that:

- Sophistry is wanting to win.

- Philosophy is wanting to know what is wise

- A philosopher is a wise man who lives virtuously

R. Z. Halleson's avatar

Forget the egg for a moment. This is one of the most brilliant pieces of writing that I've read in a long time! Amazing. As a writer myself, I can only hope to develop such skill before I die.

James Taylor Foreman's avatar

An honor, thank you so much.

Edgar's avatar

This was an awesome read, and i agree wholeheartedly

chayote tacos's avatar

Well said. 🐦‍🔥🍇💙

James Taylor Foreman's avatar

Is that a flaming turkey emoji?

Clark Stevens's avatar

Also, I laughed about the forester bit and am taking this away with me:

“If philosophy is not doing its job to justify good, prudent, practical, pragmatic, and long-term intuitions (read: religious), then it is failing.”

If it helps you to find and love a life mate then it is succeeding

Clark Stevens's avatar

2 other layers to the egg issue.

1. Rarity or beauty, which might lead to a rescue incubation operation like we might back in the Michigan early 70’s.

2. Divine significance, depending on context of physical circumstances, correlations, uncanniness and your prayers.

Egg found without wife = #2?

Michael Alleman's avatar

In South Louisiana, as you well know, the first thing we would do when confronted with the egg is to cook some rice.

Marky Martialist's avatar

This is really just saying that a working philosophy should be compatible with most of the intuitions that people have developed over centuries of living in societies. I thought everyone knew this. Some contrarians might not, but they’re a distinct species. Women don’t always hate their vibes, as they are sometimes successful and fun. And any good philosopher deals with edge cases and how their principles will work under stress in their minds.

It’s a good essay, but I do think that periods of change, requiring adaptability, have to be slow or very understated to fit into the mold of a good philosophy you’re establishing here. This is why conflict is such a male-coded thing. It’s an opportunity for reorganizing the hierarchy, with themselves in a higher place, and they desperately need that to have a meaningful life.

Esther Berry's avatar

This is cool! I do think this captures why I love love love being at conferences with a healthy mix of men and women.

Eric Brunner's avatar

Incredible

Terry Mc Kenna's avatar

But if the egg is not in the next but on the ground, the mother will not come back to hatch it. The problem with metaphors is that sometimes the details matter. Thus the lesson in the evolution of science from philosophical speculation is that the real data is preferable.

James Taylor Foreman's avatar

Well, that’s if you know that. The problem is that the actual frontier of knowledge is always filled with unknown unknowns by everyone and that will never change as long as we are mortal.

Terry Mc Kenna's avatar

Well of course. As a homeowner in NJ with lots of shrubs and small trees, we get robin's eggs in the yard many springs. (There are all manner of possums, squirrels and such around to distress the birds.).

James Taylor Foreman's avatar

Dang that sounds pretty cool. I bet that's what happened to my egg - a possum or something?

mudhut's avatar

I read this in Jordan Peterson's voice after you said "high in conscientiousness."

The Existential Christian's avatar

Excellent advice. Growing up, my father would read a passage from the Bible at the dinner table. We were then expected to debate with each other about the meaning of the passage.

Do philosophy with your family.

Goodman's avatar

I've been thinking about this question for a few days, oh dang! A week now. And I think my views have always been shaped by an attempt at fairness. My parents were both molested as kids and were open about that with me when talking about justice and power. They also taught forgiveness. So, I was aware of others having trauma that caused trauma and this endless cycle. Lke Hegseth pretending like he's not an absolute punk. Or Hitler. lol. And that's why I think individual character in contribution to the wider group is such a panacea for civilization's ills. Not in a status game, but for your own excellence to be your aim not for your own benefit but for society's. In this should be a just reward and so many other things to work out by policy. Which is way above my pay grade. I just think about humanity, mind, history, soul, people, and character. I think these are the root of it all. Most are already operating under this premise.